Paul Lanier: I'm Paul.

Aiko Cuneo: I'm Aiko.

Addie Lanier: I'm Addie, and we're three of Ruth’s six children.

Paul Lanier: So We're sitting here in Ruth’s house in San Francisco.

Aiko Cuneo: The ceiling was very, very tall in this room, so that Ruth could hang her very long sculptures so that we could still run underneath them. (laughter)

Addie Lanier: She never told us “don't touch this” or “be careful.”

Aiko Cuneo: She was always working--her hands were always busy, looping the sculptures. She would start the [sculpture] on a table, or in her lap sitting on the floor, and sometimes she did have to hang them from the ceiling. Most often, she was working upward. They were very flexible pieces.

Addie Lanier: She might use a plier to straighten the loop, but really everything is fabricated by her hand making each individual loop.

Aiko Cuneo: But in the larger sculptures that she looped, she taped her fingers, because if she didn't tape them, they would be cracked.

Addie Lanier: There was a time when gloves went out of fashion, and so that you could get these really nice ladies’ gloves at the Goodwill, and I remember people giving those to her.

Paul Lanier: And then she could work.

Aiko Cuneo: I always thought she was daydreaming and meditating while she was making them, because it's very meditative, you know, repetitious.

**Paul Lanier: She did plan them. Maybe just in her mind, not always with a drawing.

Addie Lanier: But then as she was making it, of course, she changed it. You know, she never really followed recipes in cooking either… (laughter)